RE: my "Transition Notes"...

[Elias]

Since the old forums closed down, I have posted a series of "transition notes" which can be read here.

Those notes are "one way"...but I welcome any discussion or questions here, on this message board. I will attempt to respond as time permits.

namaste

Elias

[mdpc]

Hi Elias,

At the moment, I don't have much in the way of intelligent discussion to offer on those postings of yours, but I do want to express my appreciation to you for sharing them. I've really been enjoying reading them and am glad that you've been continuing to write stuff for public consumption.

I could say the same about BY's blog, which I've been enjoying immensely, as well.

[Mike Jamieson]

I saw your notes on the Ramana Maharshi material just now. A few days ago, I discovered some film of Ramana
at YouTube! (I had never been there before.) Very moving material.

[Izzy]

From your Transition Notes, Elias: When you do finally have it, you are alone with it, because it is a solitary unbroken experience, undivided by relations and external appearances. It simply is. It changes the way you live, forever. It is the beginning of dissolution of the machinery of the world as it has impressed itself upon your brain.

I have been reading through your notes. So much resonates. Someplace in them you mention embracing the world rather than the "not this, not that" approach. God do be mysterious because, for the past 4 or 5 years I have been dissolving myself of participation in the "machinery of the world." I did not know what to do with this, however. Somehow I led myself or I was led into a journey through my neuroses. One I am just peering out of now.

I prayed to God to help me out of the hell of that revisiting. I'm thankful for how God answered as I was introduced to a few wonderful people and other stuff to help me off that hellish path to an awareness that I have not experienced before and am just beginning.

I'm grateful to find these notes of yours at this time, as well. I breath, I pray, I keep reminding myself to treat others the way that I would like to be treated. That sounds so simplistic, but after the hellish, complex experience I just went through...ahhhhh for it simply coming to me.

Good to find you and others like you here.

Izzy

[Elias]

Izzy ~ There are points where one needs to separate out from the world. No doubt about that. It's sort of like pulling your legs out of quicksand. That said, there are also points where one embraces the world. What I am trying to show is that these points of embracing the world ought to include the Spirit of God. You bring the Spirit to the world, or the Spirit moves you to take part in Its own embrace of the world. But to submerge the little "i" in the world -- which, it seems, most people do -- is a formula for unconsciousness, suffering, piling up karma, and endless rounds of reincarnation.

Elias

[Izzy]

Separating out from the world beginning awhile back was a necessity for me. I just couldn't be around the machinery of the established "working world" any longer. The CEOs, CFOs, Executive Directors, and their army made me want to "go hide in a closet until all the monsters went away". There was nothing in me that wanted to be like them or be around them. It bordered on evil mind-set, i.e. if you don't smile and play nice with us, we will lop you off at the knees. (Typed with some humor now.)

I began my departure because I had felt the falseness of it and the Holy Spirit simultaneously. Trouble is, in my escape, I chose to rebel like a mouse on a Harley, hang with the rebels for awhile, and simultaneously escape the Holy Spirit's embrace, as well. The problem with becoming a rebel and entering that world is there are as many types on the sociopathic continuum there as in the corporate world. I got really lostand the holy spirit got pushed out.

I'm just now looking at embracing the world "with the guidance of the Holy Spirit" for lack of a better way to put it. It's new to me, so I am starting with some basic principles. I mentioned them before. You mentioned them in your notes. Got any tips? A good concrete example of your beginning embrace of the world, including the Spirit of God would be interesting and helpful, IMO.

Izzy

[Elias]

Well...see http://www.lightgate.net/lightmind/index.php

More of that kind of thing to follow.

Elias

[Izzy]

When you are inspired and moved to descend into the subtle formations of the mind, when you get to know and feel them, eventually you pass through them to the Silence. Then God speaks directly to you. Or rather, you notice that he has been speaking all along…but you weren’t listening!

Once the nuanced level of awareness becomes active in you, it is no shame to economize your outer relationships or to stop listening to the world. Most of what constitutes the world is jabbering anyway: self-promotion, selling, politics, and “the news". And if you have been part of a social group for awhile – even a religious group – you know that most of the talk among members of groups is not profound. It is just ordinary gossip.

I am inspired to "descend into the subtle". Dreams have always been active, and I have paid attention and "listened". I am in another process of descending via EMDR therapy. It is exciting to me due to how useful it is as an aid into this descent. Much is emerging in terms of the "subtle formations of the mind".

I sometimes wonder why I had to be hit between the eyes with a two by four board before I became inspired, However.

Izzy

[henri]

http://www.atmajyoti.org/ch_aquarian_silence_and_word.asp

[Izzy]

Wow, henri,

What a find. I am journaling as I read the link you sent. The King James version never did much for me. There is much truth, imo, in this gospel. I will be reading for awhile...

back later and thank you,

Izzy

[henri]

Yeah, it's a great website.
You can receive all new articles when you subscribe to the newsletter on the blog.
A fascinating amount of knowledge...

[Tantrum]

Much like your latest mood Elias! The break was indeed good! Yes, yes and yes, to all your musings! Indeed, Frank is an attention seeker, who wants not only to be relevant but the boss of any show he's in! He may sense well what is amiss, but has a blind spot that covers the cosmos, about his own desperate and mortal motives in all this.

[Elias]

I like this -- "wants...to be the boss of any show he's in! He may sense well what is amiss, but has a blind spot that covers the cosmos, about his own desperate and mortal motives in all this."

I agree. It seems definitely a personality thing, blown to pseudo-cosmic proportions -- i.e. megalomania pure and simple. The problem is that one who gives in to that kind of inflation inevitably gets inhabited by what I would call "gnostic entities" -- non-spiritual beings over which one has no control. One either channels these inhuman personalities or discovers that one's "inmost self" is in fact a kind of daemonic archetype.

Frank's main spiritual problem, from the get-go, was that he never understood the Spirit, or what spiritual life is really about. For him, it was always a career for the ego, and that's what made him vulnerable to these so-called "gnostic entities", imho.

Elias